YA, cool emergency!

[KenG]

All I want to say is that it DID happen on a boeing 737-200 and the captain first tried a few dives to push the gear out with g-forces. Did
didn't work so he tried to bounce a few times.

While your link did not lead me to the incident you quoted I will accept the above as I am clearly not a 737 type rated instructor. While videos are
good I prefer to read the actual NTSB report on the incident. (The NTSB does assist with investigations of foreign carriers especially when it
involves US built aircraft.)

I will also concur with attempting to use g forces to encourage a gear to unlock. However, with passengers in the back how many gs do you loadup? It
is written in our procedures so you got me on that one.

I am surprised (although I shouldn’t be) that the Captain did attempt to bounce the gear down on a 737, however a -200 has much higher mounted wing
nacelles than say a -300 or higher. Thus the Captain did in this case have more room for error. Also the -200s engine are firmly mounted underside the
wings as opposed to being hung. My line of thinking was more along the line of stuff hanging below the wing. There are a whole line of aircraft (717,
727, MD80, ect) that have much more room to play with various techniques with lower the gear.

I do wonder if the Captain choose to land with the remaining gear down or if he was unable to retract the remaining gear? There is a
difference.

So this IS a real life emergency procedure for big jets.

Technique or procedure. A procedure is written either by the manufacture or the airline as a technique may be written or unwritten. Regardless we
have clearly gone from general to type specific techniques or procedures a point that FSPassengers cannot handle.

I did not realize there was not a reward for bouncing the gear down…

[Anastasios]

http://www.airdisaster.com/movies/

It is the last video, all the way down.

It is bad quality, but the first attempt you can clearly see that he is bouncing. He also takes off again.
The 2nd attempt he lands the plane. First right and front gear, then he deploys the speedbrakes and the left engine hits the ground hard.
You will see the landing from different views.

I don't have as much knowledge as you about this subject. I only read it and just wanted to let you know that it did happen on a 737.

I hope you can find the video now

Tasos.

[biddy]

A few years back a Virgin A340 had the same trouble the captain did a fly by of the tower and even tried touch and go to dislodge the gear
but to no effect, when he landed he only had the right side main gear and the centre wheel the left was locked in position by a small piece
of metal that had shifted in flight.
Outcome the captain did very well keeping the aircraft straight until a crosswind lifted the wing and tipped the aircraft over.
I remember watching this from the apron at heathrow and thinking everyone was going to die but baring minor injuries everyone
escaped. The aircraft was rebuilt and is today flying with another airline.

[Anastasios]

A friend of mine worked as a cabin attendant for the spanish airline iberia. He told me that he experienced an emergency onces. Gear
wouldn't come down and they had to make a belly landing.
He told me everything about the procedures and it was quite scary to know what passengers and crew are going through.
They prepared the cabin for the emergency landing in about 15-20 minutes. Then they just had to sit and wait until they would land, that
also took about 20-25 minutes.
They landed safely and then they evacuated like hell because, he said, he was afraid for an explosion.

As you might understand, it was really interesting to listen to this story.

Tasos.

[KenG]

I found the movie, thanks for the link.

That was not a 737-200 but I think it was a 737-400. I wish they would have given the date of this accident. With the date and location I could have
found the NTSB report. You could see where he had a half hung gear. One of his gear was neither fully deployed nor fully retracted.

[Nasder]

That movie, I must say that the pilot made one great landing based on only having 2 out of three gears down. He touched down, down went the engine but
he kept it straight and moved forward. I kind of thought that the engine would "dig in" and turn the entire aircraft to the left.

[Anastasios]

KenG wrote:
I found the movie, thanks for the link.

That was not a 737-200 but I think it was a 737-400. I wish they would have given the date of this accident. With the date and location I
could have
found the NTSB report. You could see where he had a half hung gear. One of his gear was neither fully deployed nor fully retracted.

yeah, my mistake.
I changed the 737-200 in just 737 in my message.
thnx for noticing

Tasos.

[FsP Dennis]

[737-700 Next Generation Pilot]

OOOOOOO I love that emergency!!!!!!!!! There was one time were I was flying the A380 and my gear never locked and it took like 4 attempts to lock it!
I just love that emergency!!! But still it was chanllenging...

[bdlong]

That's why I like to fly with Amphibiens - If the gear won't come down, head for the nearest lake...


Dale

[DeCarvalho]

hmmmm ok....i got the no gear lock emergency in my first flight to Madeira LPMA....if anyone knows that airport its FARKING hard to land...the final
and base leg are very short and the turn its a 45º right....no ILS no nothing only the PAPIs to help a bit....i had to make 3 approaches before the
gear locked down....it was a -560 ft/min landing i think!!!!

[Steve]

How does one manually extend the gear in FS?

[KDAY]

Holy thread revival batman!

[Allard]

I found the NTSB report on the accident that's in the airdisaster.com movie:
http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id...9031&key=1
More info:

NTSB Identification: ATL89IA187 .
The docket is stored on NTSB microfiche number 40723.
Scheduled 14 CFR Part 121: Air Carrier operation of PIEDMONT AIRLINES
Incident occurred Wednesday, August 02, 1989 in GREENSBORO, NC
Probable Cause Approval Date: 9/11/1992
Aircraft: BOEING 737-400, registration: N413US
Injuries: 106 Uninjured.

See also http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.ht...A96F948260

[qdrummer21]

I just wanted to comment on the 7700 code. In the US this is mandatory as it causes the return on the controllers screen to become
more visible with like bold numbering/lettering or a different color (not sure of the exacts on how it looks differently). This is to make it
easier for the controller to find you in the crowded skies and keep their attention on you to keep you well away from other aircraft. Now
they're not going to be yelling at you over the coms to be sure to do it. They may very well request it though. You can also gaurantee that
when the FAA looks into the emergency decleration they're going to have some questions for you as to why you didn't set it. With no good
explination for not doing something that takes a few seconds you could find yourself in some serious trouble.