Suggestion: Ultimate solution for Flaps penalty

[musicpete]

Hello guys!

A first posting about this amazing program, and one that is prone to being flamed... I just got up, after having slept for 3 hours in the last days.
So please do not kill me, if this already was mentioned...

I found several treads complaining about FSPassengers inability to "know" which aircraft need how many flaps for takeoff and landing, and which
aircraft do not. The solution was to edit the "more_option.cfg", which is IMHO a bit Freeware-style and cumbersome. Dan pointed out, that he is unable
to program all the myriads of different settings into FSP (and right he is!!).

How about this solution: Why not put 2 new variables into the payload model? There already is one for pressurization, so why not add 2 for "Flaps on
takeoff" and "Flaps on landing"?

Advantages:
* FSP would know exactely how much flaps the aircraft needs to take off or land.
* FSP would not penalize you, even though you did nothing wrong.
* One would not need to do the cumbersome editing of "more_option.cfg".
* Dan would not need to find out settings for millions of addon aircraft
* The people (who already customize this great addon like mad) would simply enter these informations, while creating payload models.
* Dan would be saved the work and can concentrate on more important things.

Disadvantages:
* Can't think of any right now...

What do you think about this? Already been mentionen and ooooooold, or ist it a good idea?

[Giorgio]

It seems a great idea to me!

Giorgio

[Ryanamur]

Good idea but the current system would need to be kept as a safeguard for people who will not modify their aircraft config.

[DanSteph]

musicpete wrote:
How about this solution: Why not put 2 new variables into the payload model? There already is one for pressurization, so why not add 2
for "Flaps on
takeoff" and "Flaps on landing"?

I thought about this idea already, luckily payload model are designed so I can add such value
without messing the existing payload model.

musicpete wrote:
Disadvantages:
* Can't think of any right now...

the only disavantage is if people wait that all payload model have already this value set,
usually you can't found easily those value on internet you have to read the real aircraft manual
so the disadvantage is that it can take several month to get all aircraft's flaps value.

but if people are ready to "do it yourself" why not ? it's a good idea...

Dan

[nem]

As long as the payload models still work even if those values are not set - meaning they're optional - it would be up to the users to add this extra
functionality by doing a research on the values or not. Nor harm in that I guess.

[Giorgio]

I had suggested to use the payload model even for disabling the writing of weights... But you have preferred a line in the
more_option.cfg.... You are no longer my friend, Dan!

(this last phrase is often used by my two 4yo twin daughters when I do something they don't like)


Giorgio

[SE-TMA]

I am fully for this idea. It would be prudent to have "any flap setting, except UP" on takeoff, if no value is set. If a value is set, penalty should
be applied if wrong setting is used. (Man, my english only gets worse. Hope you got something out of that guys )



Post Edited ( 08-09-05 00:08 )

[ste9889]

great idea, good thinking ther batman

[DanSteph]

Giorgio wrote:
I had suggested to use the payload model even for disabling the writing of weights... But you have preferred a line in the
more_option.cfg.... You are no longer my friend, Dan!
(this last phrase is often used by my two 4yo twin daughters when I do something they don't like)
Giorgio

eyh eyh eyh... don't jump on me before being sur to READ all the post
(you know the litle characters that make lines

the "more_config" is the "NUKE" solution because some requested one
possibilities to disable completely the payload loader.... (it look as original
but only the pax count is updated not the weight)

of course I'll work on the fine solution of the payload model but this will take
a bit more time... instead of disabling stuff I have one or two idea
that can resolve it in a "sweet" way.

Dan

[Giorgio]

No problem, Dan, it was only a joke! I have followed all the posts about this update so I KNOW you'll solve the problem, and I could
bet big money on it!

Giorgio