FSPassengers Suitable For Beginners?

[jboweruk]

I've never taken the lessons, In FS2002 I took the PPL test and passed it first go, without taking any lessons. I can land everything from a
Cessna to a 747 and even Concorde. The lessons are there, but half the fun with FS is you can learn as you go on. I could go through a
long (very long) list of what I've learnt through FS alone, without what guys like Brad have tought me, and still I know I've a lot to learn, but I
just never had the patience to sit through the lessons only to get halfway through and get told by the instructor "okay I'm ending the lesson
now you not doing it right", if I'm not right then tell me what I'm doing wrong for crying out loud and gimme a chance, at least on my own I
can find out for myself what's wrong and correct it. Look at my landings, nearly all kiss landings now, and self taught, because I'm flying
small stuff most are full manual approach, since most of the fields I'm in and out of are little more than a bit of asphalt in the middle of
nowhere.

If the guy wants to take the lessons sure, but if not then let FSP teach him what he needs to know. After all, like with driving 90% of flying
is just plane common sense and a bit of physics, in fact as long as you know enough about airflow then the rest should be fairly easy in
the small stuff, then you have the Turboprops to look forward to, and after that you learn the heavy stuff, then my friends the world is your
oyster.

[smartboy4]

FsP doesn't teach you how to track VOR and sorts lol.

[SWAFO]

smartboy4 wrote:

SWAFO wrote:

smartboy4 wrote:
You should acquire some flying skills for FS first.

I mean like you take up those flying lessons and stuffs until you're capable of doing a full airport - airport procedure flawlessly.

Are you serious? I've been flying for 11 years (real world), and I'll be damned if I can do any procedure flawlessly. lol... Seriously, FSP
can be a great learning tool for the beginning simmer. Beware that it also packs a realism punch with it. You're going to have to do
things the way us real pilots do them when we're flying.

It's always worth trying it out. There's a free demo mode available, and if after trying it, you determine that you're not fit to fly with it yet,
simply wait. FSP isn't going anywhere.

lol let me rephrase.

He's new to FS and i supposed he got no ideas how to do the procedures. He's just got to master them, ok not 100% flawlessly :P

Yeah, I know what you meant. I was just being sarcastic. As I stated before FSP is a great learning tool (not necessarily for lots of
advanced procedures, but for basic piloting, and PAX satisfaction skills, it's dead on).

[jboweruk]

True, something I still have to learn is shooting VORs. My cp normally tunes 'em, well, she did when I had a copilot, but now I just use the
GPS to find my way around.

I'm determined to learn though, same as I'm determined to learn to fly Helos and how to use SID/STAR procedures. Crazy since I can
land on a grass strip in crummy weather but don't know how to navigate w/out a GPS(Or FSNav when no GPS available.)

[SWAFO]

There's always something to learn in the world of virtual (or real) aviation. Once you learn VOR navigation and approaches, it's time to
learn NDB navigation and approaches. Enough with these easy ILS and RNAV approaches!

[pegase]

I wouls see it like Smartboy and Poden.

If you buy FSP and turn the penality off, it is abit like if i went buying a mirror and paste a poster of di caprio on it Well, you can off
course just enjoy the atmoshere comming from the sounds of boarding, the helpfull copilot and the sweet voice off the flight attendent "A cup off
coffee Captain ?". But then, don't bother disabling the penalties, just don't open the flight report

More seriously, I usually prefere to make one step at a time. Use first the lessons and do the checkride (You could skip the IFR one which is may be
more difficult than necessary) but at least practice enough to feel OK if not flawless with the lessons. Then test yourself on some IFR ATC flights.
until you feel satisfied with your results.

I think it is a pre requested to really enjoy FSP

[nem]

But then, don't bother disabling the penalties, just don't open the flight report

Now that would be like buying a mirror and just not look into it, wouldn't it?

[pegase]

Igen sir Nem

Anyway I made my decision:
I buy FSP ant leave the mirror at the store...