I was going to buy passenger..but 31 dollars is too much for me...

[Moonknight]

Hello,
he idea of ur software is great. but a little too expensive i think.

When we buy FS2004, (70$ in France), ther is few plane, not complete...in fact we jsut buy a BASE. i m really deceived that we have to buy so much add on:

an add on like fspassenger should be given with FS2004, i think it is not normal that a guy must create a software for making the microsoft game more
complete.

YOu are not guilty , i don't say this...the guilty is Microsoft, which is selling an incomplete game:

i ve made the follwoing expense forecast , if wwe wwant a good FS2004:
i think this add on config should be what we may found in the game

-FS paseenger aDd on
-PMDG 747 ( a reall plane with a real cokpit)
-COncorde
-Wlco A380
- FSUIPC ( my god..we have to pay for this too)
-Active camera ( my god we have to pay if we want to see the cabin of the add on plane..great...really great)

more FS2004

if u want all this u have to pay 200$ in France...and i dont take a lot of add on..i take plane that are usefull to the game (the 747 given by
microsoft is horrible, it s scandalous!!!)
It s too expensive..that s really abusing

and all of you..payware add on creator...are giving Microsoft what they want....

trhat s not cool...now if you want to insult me without understandin what i said.... go on


anyway bye

[Drew]

Moonknight wrote:
i m really deceived that we have to buy so much add on:

You dont HAVE to buy any extra addons, you only have to if you want to improve the original product

now if you want to insult me without understandin what i said.... go on

insult you for what reason?


btw, its 31 euros, not dollars

[fruitfly]

Moonknight wrote:
i m really deceived that we have to buy so much add on

It is very important in life to learn how to separate needs from desires.

[Drew]

yes, like fruity NEEDS beer, whereas i just Desire it

[WBHoenig]

Anyway, GETTING OFF BEER AND ON TOPIC:

It might seem like a lot, but Dan needs income. Keep in mind that he was jobless, possibly in spiraling debt for a year whilst developing FsP. Now,
I cannot say that for many other addons.

[Enzo]

...beer is a good idea! Is it already past four ('cause in germany you say no beer before four o'clock )


cheers!

[fruitfly]

Actually, I prefer vine to beer.
Here's what I answered when recently asked on another forum:

>Hi Fruitfly, did your mother really namend you like that ?
>
>

Throughout whole history nations were identifying themselves with various bloodthirsty beasts - for instance: Chinese dragon, Russian
bear, Amnerican eagle, British lion...
Well.. I identify myself with the only animal that actually LIKES VINE!

Beside, fruitfly itself has a very cool name: Drosophila Melanogaster!
Ha! Isn't that a mouthfull? Sounds more like an old Latin professor than a vinethirsty beast!

[runibl]

Sure not everyone likes or can buy a lot of addon, which is of course totally dependent on the person.
That's why you can choose.

an add on like fspassenger should be given with FS2004, i think it is not normal that a guy must create a software for making the microsoft
game more
complete.

You really want "microsoft" to make these programs??? They would destroy them. In my opinion, the only thing that makes games from MS good, is the
community.
As soon as MS get's their hands on the rights to make FsP and include it in FS, they would ruin it, and we would still have to buy an addon to replace it.

but a little too expensive i think.

FsP is one of those addons, that really is worth the money and more. I would definatly still buy it if it was $100. IMO it is THE best addon out
there, I would go as far as to say the best addon for anything out there.

Dan use alot of his personal time to make this addon and this great community, and i think he deserves to get something in return for his job well done.

But if you don't like to buy addons, you can always find freeware ones (But there is nothing out there that can replace FsP though).

For the 747 you can go to http://www.avsim.com and download fly74710.zip
It is said to be able to rival PMDG 747, and there is propably others as well.

IMO if you should buy anything for FS, it should be:
FS Passengers
Active Sky 6

Others are:
Radar Contact 4
PMDG 737ng and 800/900
PMDG 747 (or the one from Avsim)
Level-D 767
Flight 1 ATR 72-500
These are of course only some that are out there. You can check out this list: http://www.fspassengers.com/forum/showth...?tid=12554

Some payware addon out there has a prise tag on it that is simply offencive to the quality of the addon, and FsP is not one of them.
But also keep in mind that some addon developers, use years, alot of staff and money to create an addon.

I am in no way trying to insult you or anything, everyone has there own opinion. And this is only my opinion.

[Moonknight]

no i just Think tha tMICROSOFT give us a game iconmplete...For the game to be interesting we must buy add on.


The best one are (as my opinion) that what i m going to buy if i can

PMDG series 747, Beechcraft, 737

FS PASSENGER

i say dollars for all to understand

[WBHoenig]

Of course they gave us an imcomplete game, but if it was complete, the price of the base would be $200.

[Drew]

Moonknight wrote:


i say dollars for all to understand

if aimed at what i posted, 1 euro does not equal 1 dollar - 31 euros is around 37 American dollars

[runibl]

I agree with you on that, MS does make an incomplete game. But they do that with addon developers in mind.
FS has a long history, and they know as well as the old time users. That it's the community and addons that makes the game complete.

It has worked for over 20 years, and it will continue to be what makes the game good.
I myself has always used freeware addon for FS until i saw FsP. Then I started buying addon after addon and i'm happy.

FsP is not just the addon, it's the whole community that comes with it that makes it really good. This is the place where you can get advise on
anything related to FsP or FS.

This is IMO the best friendliest forum out there.

Btw. Welcome to the forum

[WBHoenig]

I myself has always used freeware addon for FS until i saw FsP. Then I started buying addon after addon and i'm happy.

Me, too. It's the FsP-created payware addon addiction syndrome

[Enzo]

Anyhow, talking for MS and other big companies: thats how business runs! Buy a computer today, and it's outdated tomorrow, no, sorry,
it's outdated already when you leave the shop!
Even Windoze is an uncomplete program! Look at all those addons you can or must buy to repair and maintain it.
I generally agree with your statements Moonknight, but thats the way the world turns today.
Nice thing is that you still have the choise to go with it, or leave it! To do some paperwork my P166MHz would do fine but for the things I
want my computer to do I need a faster machine... buy it or leave it
I BOUGHT IT!

[Mud]

Just filled my gas tank for 70 euro's .
Prolly it wil get me going for a week , FSPax will last longer for half the price.
Stupid discussion btw ,

Mud