[Work in Progress] FsPassengers for Prepar3D v4 (64 bits version)

[CzarW]

I have now fs captain and airhauler 2, I would like my money back hahaha!

[Romczyk]

I have now fs captain and airhauler 2, I would like my money back hahaha!

Isn't you version of FSPassengers working with the version of Prepar3D it was developed for?

[CzarW]

I have now fs captain and airhauler 2, I would like my money back hahaha!

Isn't you version of FSPassengers working with the version of Prepar3D it was developed for?

Im using V4, FSX and V3 are dead for me now haha 

[Tessel]

It does not take 1 year to update a software.
It becomes absurd.
Try to tell the truth and not hide behind such excuses.
It becomes pathetic.

Please tell us the proof you have to back up your assertions.

Well to be honnest, he got a point, thats for sure.
The flue and his family matters (how bad it really is) can't be the reason Joe!
I must agree, its an excuse.
He had months before the time to give us an update as he prommised us.
With all the respect to Dan, he also must respect his customers.

[Voland]

It does not take 1 year to update a software.
It becomes absurd.
Try to tell the truth and not hide behind such excuses.
It becomes pathetic.

Please tell us the proof you have to back up your assertions.

Well to be honnest, he got a point, thats for sure.
The flue and his family matters (how bad it really is) can't be the reason Joe!
I must agree, its an excuse.
He had months before the time to give us an update as he prommised us.
With all the respect to Dan, he also must respect his customers.

Well, I've been using FSP for years now and just love it because it's simple to use and gives you a nice reason to fly.
I also been following this thread constantly and really hope that Dan will get inspiration to finish off a good version for v4.
(Actually a version with just the economy and ranking would be ok. The failures are already built in in a lot of payware aircraft - A2A, PMDG etc)

His behavior though is awful and without respect to those of us who want the v4 version (and Joe - who never stops to defend him. That's loyalty, by the way).

As a customer - I've already got what I paid for. So I don't complain, I'm just happy and grateful 

We can't demand a v4 version. Just hope. But I guess that Dan lost his passion for FSP and passion can't be bought by money.
So Dan, if you're not able to make it. Consider to sell it (if it's possible).

Regards Thomas

[tonaz]

I assume you mean to sell the source to some developer that would keep it up for v4. 
This is actually a very good point.

[Autolycos]

OK... let's not confuse positive reinforcement with gullibility... We've been complaining that the developer had abandoned us and considering his earlier promise, this was very true. But once the person showed up and provided a reasonable excuse, all we can do is to hope his problem is resolved and that he will return to this project. When it comes to family, it is what it is; one never knows how serious a situation can be and frankly it is none of our business to ask. But since he has returned, let's rejoice and remain supportive. Also, I still believe that opening the discussion on alternative products is a good idea in that it may help Dan catch up with what's out there and what has come up during his absence.

[MrUnSavory]

Dan? You take your time buddy, don't let the masses get to you. I would also charge full price as this is a huge upgrade to a 64bit platform. You owe nothing to the people out here who decided to upgrade to a new platform that FSP was not built for. Tough Beans, To Bad and sucks to be you for upgrading when you seem SO dependent on 1 small addon. I myself am using some of the freeware solutions out there for now until you get this finished. Heck, I would not even blame you if you flipped the bird to the whole community and decided not to upgrade! LOL Either way You got my money when you get it done.

Ross G.

[CzarW]

If the upgrade is in needing of a new fee, why not?, Certainlly a pair of newer functions, new interface and the 64bit support is what we need.

We need a revised payload system for cargo flights, it caps around 65250lbs or so in each station.
I would like louder incab F/O and flight attendants voice sounds.
Able to name more movies.
Customize your home airport.

[EverSeen]

New interface would be great and would really make a difference maybe a fs2crew style rather than the blue or black box

I second or third the new price and would love new features to be added..

That said take your time. It's a program not the end of the world

[Schoening24]

Honestly, I haven't posted here before. I too am a fan of FSPassengers and am PATIENTLY waiting and not complaining like a petulant child. As this goes, reading some of these responses, I have to say that many of you have no clue, cannot read, or are incapable of comprehending what is happening. So maybe I can break it down for you. Mind you that I don't know Dan personally at all, nor am I affiliated with FSP in any way other than a consumer, so this is an outsiders view from just reading the facts and adding a tiny bit of common sense.

This is not an update. So the comment of it being "absurd" for taking a year, that comment is absurd and misinformed in itself. Dan has said that it is a complete rewrite and rewriting 80,000 lines of code from x32 to x64 sounds like a pretty big undertaking. So a rewrite is not an update! Now, I am not a computer programmer so maybe that's why it sounds like a lot to me, however, in my life experience, rewriting 80,000 lines of anything seems like a lot.  Maybe, since it seems so easy for you to claim that it's absurd, then just maybe you should write your own FS addon program and market it and sell it. Maybe it'll give you something to do while you wait for this NEW PRODUCT. All those that want an answer or an update, look at it like this, I am pretty sure that Dan isn't sitting on the program and making you wait. I'm sure that he wants to make money off of his time and effort. He is probably busy and has illustrated quite clearly that he could find a work around and shave off 3 weeks or he could get lost chasing a ghost to a dead end and wasting some time. If you need an update every day, then read his last update and pretend that he just posted it. If he had news, he'd give you news. It doesn't seem that he works with a lot of people. Doesn't seem like he has a huge staff and a PR department with a call center giving 24/7 customer service. So every time he writes a line in the forum that's not a line of code in the program being written. You can help yourself and us all by not being part of the problem but being part of the solution and exercising patience, as I and many others are.  Lastly, the more that you complain, that won't make the program to get written any quicker. If I was Dan, just by the overwhelming demand alone that is being expressed here, I would double the price when it comes out. Again, he must not be a huge corporation because if he was, he would look at this and do just that. I am not a fan of raising prices but you all are sure giving an excellent argument for that to happen. Just saying!

[vjeanmarc]

Honestly, I haven't posted here before. I too am a fan of FSPassengers and am PATIENTLY waiting and not complaining like a petulant child. As this goes, reading some of these responses, I have to say that many of you have no clue, cannot read, or are incapable of comprehending what is happening. So maybe I can break it down for you. Mind you that I don't know Dan personally at all, nor am I affiliated with FSP in any way other than a consumer, so this is an outsiders view from just reading the facts and adding a tiny bit of common sense.

This is not an update. So the comment of it being "absurd" for taking a year, that comment is absurd and misinformed in itself. Dan has said that it is a complete rewrite and rewriting 80,000 lines of code from x32 to x64 sounds like a pretty big undertaking. So a rewrite is not an update! Now, I am not a computer programmer so maybe that's why it sounds like a lot to me, however, in my life experience, rewriting 80,000 lines of anything seems like a lot.  Maybe, since it seems so easy for you to claim that it's absurd, then just maybe you should write your own FS addon program and market it and sell it. Maybe it'll give you something to do while you wait for this NEW PRODUCT. All those that want an answer or an update, look at it like this, I am pretty sure that Dan isn't sitting on the program and making you wait. I'm sure that he wants to make money off of his time and effort. He is probably busy and has illustrated quite clearly that he could find a work around and shave off 3 weeks or he could get lost chasing a ghost to a dead end and wasting some time. If you need an update every day, then read his last update and pretend that he just posted it. If he had news, he'd give you news. It doesn't seem that he works with a lot of people. Doesn't seem like he has a huge staff and a PR department with a call center giving 24/7 customer service. So every time he writes a line in the forum that's not a line of code in the program being written. You can help yourself and us all by not being part of the problem but being part of the solution and exercising patience, as I and many others are.  Lastly, the more that you complain, that won't make the program to get written any quicker. If I was Dan, just by the overwhelming demand alone that is being expressed here, I would double the price when it comes out. Again, he must not be a huge corporation because if he was, he would look at this and do just that. I am not a fan of raising prices but you all are sure giving an excellent argument for that to happen. Just saying!

Hello sir,

I think the demand of the people here is not primarily a free update, many are close to buying a new version.
If you reread the different posts carefully, you will realize that the main problem is Dan's silence.
People here will just want to know if the work is going forward ... have some news from time to time, feel like a customer that we respect.
Regards,

[Schoening24]

Dan has never said that he isn't working on it. Like I said, every line written in the forum saying that there is nothing new, is not a line of code written toward getting something new. It seems as though Dan has spent quite some time on working on this. I am pretty sure that he hasn't completed it and is sitting on it. I am pretty sure that, if he had something to update, he would. Or if it was done, he'd sell it. Reading this is like watching children asking dad "Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we gonna be there soon? Huh? Huh? Are we? Are we?" We are customers and not investors. We haven't paid for the product yet and are waiting for it to be delivered. I personally am alright with Dan's silence. He is 1 guy. It reminds me of being at work when we are taking a delay on a flight. Management calls over-and-over asking when we are gonna be done. I tell them that, "Every time you call me and I answer, that's a radio in my hand and not a bag in my hand. You keep calling me and you are only slowing down the process. Stop being part of the problem and start being part of the solution and I will talk to you when I am done." Dan gave updates. He said hopefully end of the year. Now he is saying hopefully spring. Do you need a daily update? You get a daily update every day. If he doesn't post anything, it's not done yet. Here's the update, it's not spring yet and it's not done yet. Honestly, if we paid for the product up front, I could understand the impatience, but we haven't. So we have to wait.

[S.Gerard]

http://www.simbuddy.com

Perfect alternative while waiting for FSpassengers :-) Still beeing developed, but has like failures and economy and a pretty "ok" GUI (inflight minimenu)

[Siam]

Honestly, I haven't posted here before. I too am a fan of FSPassengers and am PATIENTLY waiting and not complaining like a petulant child. As this goes, reading some of these responses, I have to say that many of you have no clue, cannot read, or are incapable of comprehending what is happening. So maybe I can break it down for you. Mind you that I don't know Dan personally at all, nor am I affiliated with FSP in any way other than a consumer, so this is an outsiders view from just reading the facts and adding a tiny bit of common sense.

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