ILS Landing - how?

[unimike]

SwiftFoxLit wrote:

olseric wrote:
PS and By the Way, the ILS hold feature of FS2004 is really screwed up. In reality, if you engage the hold while on a 30 degree intercept,
the hold should track the LOC, and then automatically intercept it. In FS2004, it usually goes too far and then S-Tails down the LOC trying
to re-capture it.

Thats why I love the auto-land in the PMDG 737. Not only does it intercept the glideslope perfectly,but it can do a full CAT III ILS approach.

I dont see that your doing anything wrong. The optimal altitude to intercept is about 2000 AGL. If its the VERTICAL glideslope your not intercepting,
well I had the same problem too alot. Like olseric said,its really screwed up.

Speaking of the landing using PMDG 737, does it kiss the runway or it slams onto the runway ? I have the PMDG 737 as well but everytime I have the
auto approach/autoland it maintains like -700ft/min, I believe it is little too fast when it comes to the touchdown or does she slow the vertical
speed down right before the touchdown ?



Post Edited ( 10-07-05 04:11 )

[SWAFO]

I find that it usually lands pretty smoothly.

[Jackal]

im looking forward to dusting off my PMDG B738 - i just have to get my hours up in regional flights first... and not make too many
mistakes in the process

[eazy]

unimike wrote:
... I believe it is little too fast when it comes to the touchdown or does she slow the vertical
speed down right before the touchdown ?

Yes, it's called "flare"

[kvuo]

dont engage APP mode until the glideslope is alive..... I've noticed in FS2004, the localizer comes alive well before the GS does.. if you
engage APP mode beffore the GS comes alive, it wont capture..


also, always capture the GS from below, not above.

[jboweruk]

Now I just love the 767 from LevelD for autolands. She goes in perfectly.

[Fritz Bayerlein]

People keep talking about this localizer thing.. I've never done an ILS landing before, ever. I always fly all my approaches and landings in
by hand, but I'm willing to try this.

How do I know when this localizer thingy is on so I can hit the approach hold button?

[eazy]

1. tune NAV1 to ILS frequency (or preferably both Nav-Radios)
2. dial in the approach course with the CRS selector
3. switch your ND/MFD to Nav mode (in case you are in FMS / GPS mode)
4. as soon as the localizer signal is active, you should see the needle on your display (ILS range is something like 15 to 20 NM, I think;
not quite sure about that) - that's when you know the thingy is on ...
5. head towards the localizer, so you'll intercept it at a 20 to 40 degrees angle and speed at or below 200kts
6. push the APP button
7. as you get close to the localizer, the needle starts to move to the center and your autopilot should start to turn for final

I think there are some autopilots/aircraft with separate LOC and APP buttons. In this case you should press them both, one for localizer
the other for glideslope.

Some freeware panel autopilots try to "catch" the localizer as soon as APP mode is activated. In this case push the APP button only when
the needle starts to move.

[pagir]

...and to get the ILS frequency, open the map and click on the green feather of the runway (as Grone said)

...and don't forget: you have to be below the glideslope needle if you want you aircraft to "catch" it.

Pagir

[Fritz Bayerlein]

How do you know where the glideslope is?

[eazy]

Because I have this:

[Fritz Bayerlein]

Hmm.. maybe mine does that too?

[Dutch64]

hey eazy, is that from the 340? I noticed that the numbers at the topright are abit 'off the screen' like the font is too big or so, i only have that
problem with the 340 (especially on the other screen, you can see the N1 for the four engines but the one on the right is also partly hidden.
Just wondering, i thought something was wrong in my setup but now that i see this pic, it might be a known problem then.

[Fritz Bayerlein]

Thanks to everyone who has helped me with all the advice! I followed the instructions to the T and I did my first ILS landing. I let the AP fly
it in until my decision height and then I took over and brought her down at -130ft/min.

[eazy]

@Dutch: Yes, it's PSS 340. Also my ECAM seems to be the same as yours. I tried to tweak the panel.cfg to move the gauges a bit to the left
but it moves not only the black display part but also the grey frame. So I gave up and got used to it

@Fritz: Great it worked! Happy landings.