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[Qantas 737 pilot]

Post Edited ( 04-30-11 01:57 )

[Thunderstorm]

Very interesting!
I think some of the "anti-airplane-specialists" here in germany already said it would be better to reduce thrust on approach but I think it is too
dangerous (and most of the things those "specialists" say is trash). But a satellite landing (like a new version of ILS) would be a nice idea. I like
the "normal" way but if it is really better for the environment we should give it a chance.
Just one question: I think with "neutral" they mean idle, right? Is it dangerous for the engines to put them on idle on approach? I heard that there
are problems with the fuel if the engines are too slow on approach. Anyone an idea?

[pealextf]

It is very interesting...

However I've seem some articles which claim that today's satellites fail constantly, and it is true once the GPS we use on cars sometimes
times get lost. I believe airplane systems are much more reliable.

It is dangerous to have the engines at idle on approach, specially on bad weather, the engines take some time to respond when put on
idle.

[Launchbury]

"The new landing method involves an aircraft's engines being put into neutral as it comes into land"

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God what shitty reporting.

[gbapache]

But as you can clearly see by the fine report, this will reduce greenhouse emissions by 12 cow farts.

[detpilot]

"The new landing method involves an aircraft's engines being put into neutral as it comes into land"

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God what shitty reporting.

Indeed....

[timtomairways]

humm well it sounds intristing.

but i dont think a 737 should be trying a power off landing. leave that for the littel planes.

i did one in a cessna 172 in real life. i diten touch down where i was sapose to but it ended good

[Launchbury]

It's not actually a power-off landing. This is just a prime example of aviation reporting written by a generic reporter: in other words they don't
know what the **** they're talking about. What actually happens here is the engines are idled at Top of Descent, and the aircraft is glided down on a
pre-decided flight path making maximum use of changing altitude for distance. The engines are brought back to power for approach, when the flaps and
gear are down.

This is hardly news, as UPS has been doing it for years and years.

[gbapache]

I won't tell Joey that you used the lettersU,P and S.

[Launchbury]

What?

[Joeflyer]

No fear, Launch...since I'm a FedEx guy, Apache thinks UPS is a dirty word to me

[SkyAirWorld]

This was on the pilots forum about a year ago.


What a joke.

[iflyfsx]

The real joke is, we will have consumed the world reserves of oil in a few decades (and oil prices will be prohibitive long before then), and these
guys are talking about saving a small percentage of fuel per flight, as if that was going to make any difference.

We have electric cars and other alternatives for ground transportation, but I haven't heard anything about what the aviation industry is going to do.
New airplanes may be more fuel-efficient, but that's nowhere near good enough.

[DSW334]

Well.. Virgin did test with a 747 flying on bio fuel. so for sure aviation is looking for alternatives.

[Joeflyer]

Well, I HIGHLY doubt we will run out of natural resources to fuel these birds...unless of course we refuse to drill for it. Then the case will
be true. Right now our natural resources are the only efficient ways to run these engines.