anyone fly online?

[Dutch64]

I do like online flying simply because of the limitations of the builtin atc. However, if Radar Contact 4 is gonna be half as good as they say it will
be, I will be offline flying again because the only disadvantage of online flying for me is that it happens too often that there are no atc's at
airports or along the route.

[SaVas]

So my question is: Can you log in with a plane and just sit there listening to all the ATC and virtual pilots chatter?

My problem is I dont know all the terminology and how to respond to ATC

[Dutch64]

For IVAO, (don't know about VATSIM) you can login as observer and just listen to all the chatter indeed.

[Navymmw]

you can Log in as an observer in Vatsim also just file flight plan and type observing in comments box.

[Jetsgo]

SaVas wrote:
So my question is: Can you log in with a plane and just sit there listening to all the ATC and virtual pilots chatter?

My problem is I dont know all the terminology and how to respond to ATC

It's really very easy, it's the exact same "conversation" you have with the default FS2004 automated ATC. Here's an example of your
tipical (takeoff) conversation:


*A theoretical flight from KLAX to KIAD..


[Call delivery] [After filing flightplan]

AAL901: AAL901American Airlines, requesting clearence to KIAD as filed, ready to copy
LAX_V_DEL: AAL901 American Airlines, you are cleared to KIAD via [The route you gave them].
AAL901: [Just simply read back the route they just gave you exactly]
LAX_V_DEL: AAL901, your readback is correct. Contact Ground on 122.850
AAL901: Rgr, switching frequencies to 122.850

[Call ground] [After being cleared to destination by Delivery]
AAL901: AAL901American Airlines, requesting taxi IFR (or VFR) to the active
LAX_V_GRD: AAL901, C/M (climb and maintain) FL280 five minutes after departure, LAX altimiter is 2040, sq2093 (sqwauk 2093)
expect runway 25R for departure, call when ready for taxi. (They will also give you your route which you will readback.
AAL901: (read back route) CM FL280, sq 2040, expecting runway 25R for departure
LAX_V_GRD: AAL901 , your readback is correct, pushback taxi to runway 25R

[Call tower] [Upon holding short of the runway]
AAL901: American Airlines, holding short runway 25R
LAX_V_TWR: AAL901, position and hold 25R
AAL901: Rgr
LAX_V_TWR: AAL901 , winds 25R are calm, cleared for takeoff
AAL901: Cleared for takeoff

Upon takeoff, you will contact the center, and say "with you" and they will give you further instructions. This is basicly about it for taking off,
it might not be exactly what happens every time, but certainly on the lines of it. SaVas, let me take you out on Vatsim on the weekend!
There is a chat client built into SqwaukBox 3.0 in which I could use to tell you what to say and when, I'd be happy to do that if you want..
Anyways, hope this helps you SaVas.

[Jetsgo]

Oh, and the answer to your question is yes, you can logon and just sit in the GA parking. Just make the comment in your
(sqwaukbox)flight plan, and say "Newbie observing air traffic control."

[jeremy19446]

Now I have 1 question about VATSIM, what do you put in for the route when filing a flightplan...I dont know the airways so I dont really know what to
put here

[Jetsgo]

Go to http://www.Simroutes.com , at the top, enter your departuea Go to http://www.Simroutes.com , at the top, enter your departue and
destination and press enter, choose a route from the list generated and copy and paste it into the Route section of the flightplan. If you're
flying an uncommon flight from like, Cape Town, South Africa to Nadi, Fiji then have your FS generate the route, which is the VOR's
that you get when you make your FS flightplan.

[Dutch64]

Go to http://www.Simroutes.com , at the top, enter your departuea Go to http://www.Simroutes.com , at the top, enter your departue and

I better stop drinking now

[Jetsgo]

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[xvxmatthewxvx]

Are you allowed to drink and use VATSIM? Example will you be in trouble if your speech is slurred when you talk to the ATC?

Haha, I drink like 3 times a year. So just curious.



Post Edited ( 11-17-05 05:16 )

[JayKae]

I fly VATSIM, never offline, FS9 ATC is rather bad ( to understate the obvious ) and nothing beats real life communication

[jboweruk]

I miss enough ATC calls with my "radio" on as is..... Plus my co-pilot tends to ratchet on just as ATC are trying to speak to me. Nah,
think I'll stick to our beloved (sic) inbuilt ATC till something better that actually controls AI aircraft comes along.

[Navymmw]

Any one with a VA who is doing the flight to hawii this saturday?

[WBHoenig]

I fly VATSIM sometimes, but it tends to kill whatever performance I have.