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The lights penalties.. ok i'm pissed already. - smartboy4 - 26-07-2005
My 5th flight with FsP and it's the usual penalties i got for all 5 flights.
FsP says i have landing lights and strobes on while at parking ramp.
This is what i've done.
NAV on, ALL OFF while waiting for pax to board.
Push back finished. Turned on beacon and engine start up.
Taxi to runway and at the holding point, Strobes and Landing lights on.
After landed, slowing down to 60kts, strobes and landing lights off..
and i just continued my way back to the gates.
WTF is wrong ?
Re: The lights penalties.. ok i'm pissed already. - jboweruk - 26-07-2005
It's on the hold point you went wrong, try this:
at hold point request takeoff, once granted turn off the music and move over the line, strobe and Landing Lights on. Once down, slow to
the turnoff, strobes & Landing Lights off, music on, exit runway. That yellow line I think seems to be the key.
Re: The lights penalties.. ok i'm pissed already. - Felix - 26-07-2005
Wich aircraft did you fly on these flights? There are known light-problems with some planes (Cessna 172, Learjet, PSS Airbus, ...), because they have
combined light switches (e.g. BCN/STROBE) or they don't use the FS-internal "switch" for Landing-lights or strobes.
Greetings
Felix
Re: The lights penalties.. ok i'm pissed already. - nem - 26-07-2005
I'd be surprised if FSP could actually determine the crossing of the yellow line. I think it rather checks if you have takeoff clearance (or at least
a "taxi to position and hold" order) to determine if you turn on LL and strobes at the right time.
BTW according to Brad that's what they do in RL too - turn on strobes and LL when they get T/O clearance, NOT when reaching the holding point.
Re: The lights penalties.. ok i'm pissed already. - SWAFO - 26-07-2005
Yeah, Nem's right... see this message for further information:
http://www.fspassengers.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4790&pid=51965#pid51965
Re: The lights penalties.. ok i'm pissed already. - nem - 26-07-2005
Oh,one more: if you have to taxi on a runway (happens a lot in the caribbean and other small airports) FSP allows you to turn on LL and strobes as
well even before getting the clearance. I just wonder if it's done like that in RL?
Re: The lights penalties.. ok i'm pissed already. - SWAFO - 26-07-2005
Usually, any traffic moving on a runway will have LL and Strobes on. This usually only occurs when cleared for takeoff, and landing, and I
can't offer advice on flying in the Caribbean.
Re: The lights penalties.. ok i'm pissed already. - nem - 26-07-2005
Ok, good to know.
And you don't have to travel to the carib to see airports with very few taxiways and turning points at the ends, but I guess no matter where, they
aren't in SWA's flightplans.
Re: The lights penalties.. ok i'm pissed already. - SWAFO - 26-07-2005
Yeah, I know of a few airports here that have some runways with limited access. I'm familiar with what you're talking about. It's just that
normally we won't use those runways, or we won't fly to those airports in the first place. SWA is known for flying to off-the-grid airports.
Take ISP for example!
Re: The lights penalties.. ok i'm pissed already. - nem - 27-07-2005
And just to add something from "the other side" of FSP light penalties: just last flight I thundered down the runway (yeah right, in a C421 - ok, so I
more like whistled down the runway) and halfway to T/O noticed that I had forgotten LL and strobes... turned them on right then and continued the flight.
No penalty whatsoever...
Re: The lights penalties.. ok i'm pissed already. - rfbarber - 27-07-2005
Hey now! Let's be kind to KISP!
Re: The lights penalties.. ok i'm pissed already. - smartboy4 - 27-07-2005
Ok, thanks guys.
I'm in school now, will try turning on the LL and strobes after getting T/O clearance, when i get home.
Re: The lights penalties.. ok i'm pissed already. - SWAFO - 27-07-2005
Always Chip! Just pointing out that it's an "off-the-grid" airport. How many people have heard of it? You and me? lol. I'm actually starting
to like it a little better... swung by there twice just recently... love the STAR they set me up with both times (don't remember the name of it.
Flies over JFK before getting vectored to final).
Re: The lights penalties.. ok i'm pissed already. - smartboy4 - 28-07-2005
Anyway guys, it all worked :D Don't get the penalties anymore
Re: The lights penalties.. ok i'm pissed already. - 737-700 Next Generation Pilot - 23-08-2005
This is what i do:
NAV light on while getting IFR clearence
After push back set parking brake turn on Beacon start engines call for taxi turn the Taxi lights on
wait @ the hold short line if they tell me to hold shot
if ATC tells me to taxi into position and hold i do that
once they say cleaed for take off i turn off thetaxi lights, turn on landing lights, and strobes
in real life if pilots are told to taxi into position and hold they dont turn on strobes or landing lights untill there cleared 4 takeoff!
Well thats my procedues of lights!