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vatsim, - dickneuf - 10-07-2005
Hello,
Does the programm works with online programs such as SB?
Thanks for the reply
Dick
Re: vatsim, - Andreas Jatridis - 10-07-2005
I did only one Vatsim flight with it so far, but didn't encounter any problems - except a flight attendant who kept filling me up with coffee
Re: vatsim, - carloscane - 10-07-2005
My fisrt onlne flight with fsp resulted ina crash
gear problem :SRe: vatsim, - davidvoogd - 10-07-2005
Vatsim does allow emergency simulation - but only with permission of the controllers. So say you have a gear problem and a controller is
online - explain you are simulating an emergency and ask if that is ok with them. If they say sorry no it is too busy then you will have to
disconnect.
Never, ever squawk 7500 on VATSIM - you will be booted off immediately. The same goes for 7600, communications failures are not
allowed to my understanding (sort of defeats the purpose of online ATC lol).
Re: vatsim, - DanSteph - 10-07-2005
An FSP failure ? (copilot announce that) or an "Fs" failure ?
if it's an FsP failure there is NO failure were you can't land safely... just matter to handle them properly...
in case of gear failure you should be able to make a belly landing without crashing...
If you worry about failure while flying online just set 0% chance failure in setup
I recall you must NOT use FS failure they are not recogniszed by FsP....
there is enough nice failure in FsP.
About controller we had a discussion with some, perhaps announcing that you are flying
with a "possible failure" level would get you the permission of controller
on vatsim ?
Dan
Post Edited ( 07-10-05 17:12 )
Re: vatsim, - carloscane - 10-07-2005
Yes the copilot anounced the faliure, but I will stay with the fallures
its more real! Re: vatsim, - Jutti - 14-07-2005
Switch to IVAO..
Using emergency squawks is allowed and necessary if you have a comm-failure or an emergency.
It's not against IVAO-rules to practise emergencies, and controllers won't complain.
Unless they have A BUNCH of traffic to take care of. then they will just regard it as a cheap way of getting priority service.
But it's okay to use it and you dont have to ask..
THomas
Re: vatsim, - olseric - 14-07-2005
Exactly. Unlike VATSIM, on IVAO, training for emergencies a part of the process. We are required to handle an emergency during our
practical exams.
The great part about IVAO is that they offer pilot training as well so you can advance in both areas if you so desire.
Re: vatsim, - pilot3033 - 15-07-2005
I flew man flights with FSP on VATSIM. Great experiance. If you can't get the emergancy clearance on VATSIM, then just ask to divert to another
airport and disable the setting that has you Sq 7700.
-Matt
Re: vatsim, - Nickio - 15-07-2005
Same with Vatsim, it is farely seldom for a controller to reject an emergency. They like the simulation as much as we do. I wouldnt IVAO if
it wasnt all europe oriented.
Re: vatsim, - PH-MD11 - 15-07-2005
Quote:davidvoogd wrote:
Vatsim does allow emergency simulation - but only with permission of the controllers. So say you have a gear problem and a controller is
online - explain you are simulating an emergency and ask if that is ok with them. If they say sorry no it is too busy then you will have to
disconnect.
Never, ever squawk 7500 on VATSIM - you will be booted off immediately. The same goes for 7600, communications failures are not
allowed to my understanding (sort of defeats the purpose of online ATC lol).
Like they say it in the real world...sorry, too busy for an emergency so keep flying...sorry, but I think that is one of the less realistic things a
controller can say on VATSIM.
I fly on IVAO and FPI, no problems at both networks, everything works as it has to.
Re: vatsim, - fpborges - 15-07-2005
BTW Dan, and everyone else, possible bug with IVAP software: When I cant to do anything on IVAP, like send a flightplan or switch
transponder mode, I have to close the minireport. When it's open, Clicking on the IVAP window does nothing. It doesn't bother me that
much, just thought you might be interested, and if anyone else has this problem, then Ctrl-Shift-V is your friend!
Cheers,
FPB
Re: vatsim, - fozzy - 15-07-2005
You can do emergencies on VATSIM, it has been restricted and you need an ATC approval.
If not you would have loads of people using emergenices to avoid a hold, or even better no radio and ignore completely procedures.
7500 is restricted as in fact you cannot be hijacked on VATSIM. And i think it is sort of sick to even think of using it...
Emergencies are ok as training (or even fun), but if your emergency makes other pilots have less fun i don't think you should use them....
Luca
Re: vatsim, - alan - 15-07-2005
Quote:olseric wrote:
Exactly. Unlike VATSIM, on IVAO, training for emergencies a part of the process. We are required to handle an emergency during our
practical exams.
The great part about IVAO is that they offer pilot training as well so you can advance in both areas if you so desire.
No. On VATSIM an emergency is an integral part of all practical exams. Pilot training is also provided with VATSIM, in tandem with ATC training.
As a whole VATSIM, controllers don't have any issues with handling emergencies. However, if due to FSP, or pilot zeal, emergencies become as regular as retracting the landing gear they will become a nuisance, and rightly so.
Cheers
Alan
Post Edited ( 07-15-05 14:48 )
Re: vatsim, - olseric - 15-07-2005
Quote:You can do emergencies on VATSIM, it has been restricted and you need an ATC approval.
If not you would have loads of people using emergenices to avoid a hold, or even better no radio and ignore completely procedures.
7500 is restricted as in fact you cannot be hijacked on VATSIM. And i think it is sort of sick to even think of using it...
Emergencies are ok as training (or even fun), but if your emergency makes other pilots have less fun i don't think you should use them....
See, that's the difference. In reality, you have an emergency, a controller can't say "Oh, I'm sorry, I'm busy."
The interesting thing is, we can't reject emergencies on IVAO and furthermore, we don't have a problem with people abusing it. People
know when they're supposed to use it and do so properly.
Same as VATSIM though, we don't allow 7500 as there is no point to it.
Quote:No. On VATSIM an emergency is an integral part of all practical exams. Pilot training is also provided with VATSIM, in tandem with
ATC training
Really? Huh, news to me. So you're telling me that I can chose not to be an ATC and just take pilot exams to be promoted on a pilot
level?