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Re: VFR altitude - Tracker801 - 24-06-2009
And because you are here 5 years you very well know you should be more mature and political with posting remarks like that.
Gentlemen, you are both right and both wrong. Now shake hands, have a beer and discuss the topic at a more mature level. I am sure
many future PPLs will watch this closely so make it work.
Us Mods are way beyond PPL and MEP so we know too much. But we will keep an eye on this discussion.
Re: VFR altitude - Sam Breese - 24-06-2009
Here Here Tracker801. You are quite right.
Re: VFR altitude - Tracker801 - 24-06-2009
And to cut it short..... it is ALWAYS magnetic bearing, meaning the relative course whatsoever.
Despite that a radar station may use true bearing, atmospheric pressure, altitude, wind, weather and all the sorts affect an aircrafts
magnetic bearing, also known as DRIFT.
Heading is NOT course....... see above...
A good pilot, and present day computers, can compute the aprox heading to fly relative to the bearing indicated for course over ground.
Some VFR pilots just cannot, sorry to say it, study more and get your freaking IFR.
There is so much more to it but I doubt everyone has 3 years to study the basics.
Re: VFR altitude - AeroJim - 24-06-2009
i wish we had facebook. . . .
AeroJim is surprised at how people call him immature for using the proper phraseology to new pilots. Also, when the incorrect phraseology is used he
emphasis what was NOT correct and is told he was yelling.
Re: Flight Level Altitudes - Tracker801 - 24-06-2009
What is this Jimbo?
(A) An FS program with newbies trying to learn about FS flying
(B) A theory session for RL PPL pilots
© The last thing I will ever do
(D) If I don't wind down after 5 years here the mods will fry my ****
Trust me: D always applies for this test.
Re: Flight Level Altitudes - AeroJim - 24-06-2009
i'll take care of this in pm's, see you there tracker
Re: Flight Level Altitudes - Tracker801 - 24-06-2009
I think we better.
Before this turns to Looney Tunes
Re: Flight Level Altitudes - gbapache - 24-06-2009
Speaking of computers!! If everyone would learn how to use an E6B then they would have a better understanding of what being a PILOT
is all about. Batteries. Ba-humbug. Give me the circular slide-rule.
Re: VFR altitude - jlaporte - 24-06-2009
Ok, I never intended this post to be so polemical. I'm just somebody lacking knowledge and was hoping to find an answer to my question
not to start a fight.
I understand flying VFR you don't need to obey the semi circular rules and that you can apply it or not above 3000ft AGL but that is not my
question.
It is do you take into account for altitude the wind and therefore the magnetic heading of the plane or the magnetic heading between point
a and point B?
Re: VFR altitude - gbapache - 24-06-2009
What you basically did was ask, "Which is better Porshe or Farrari?"
Re: VFR altitude - AeroJim - 24-06-2009
I'd recommend you get with your flight instructor and go over( True Heading, True Course Magnetic Heading, Magnetic Course)
once you have those terms down all this lingo we discuss on here will make a lot more sense.
True Course-the heading read from the navigation plotter from your sectional chart.
True Heading-True Course corrected for winds
Magnetic Heading-True Course corrected for variation (the difference between magnetic north and true north)
Magnetic Course-Magnetic Heading corrected for deviation (the plane's metal components playing with your compass)
So. . . .
TC+/-variation=MH
MH+/-winds=TH
TH+/-deviation=MC
Magnetic Course is sometimes referred to as Compass Heading
Re: VFR altitude - jlaporte - 24-06-2009
Quote:AeroJim wrote:
I'd recommend you get with your flight instructor and go over( True Heading, True Course Magnetic Heading, Magnetic Course)
I wish I could do that if I had a flight instructor. I want to fly but I don't have the money for now. That is why I asked the question here in a
forum about a sim program under the real aviation subject because it belong to real aviation and not specificaly simulation.
Thanks for the definition of the various heading term. That always confused me but could never find a comprehensive list. With that I will
do my own research to understand things better.
sincerely,
jlaporte
Re: VFR altitude - whiskey-zulu - 25-06-2009
Quote:jlaporte wrote:
Quote:AeroJim wrote:
I'd recommend you get with your flight instructor and go over( True Heading, True Course Magnetic Heading, Magnetic Course)
I wish I could do that if I had a flight instructor. I want to fly but I don't have the money for now. That is why I asked the question here in a
forum about a sim program under the real aviation subject because it belong to real aviation and not specificaly simulation.
Thanks for the definition of the various heading term. That always confused me but could never find a comprehensive list. With that I will
do my own research to understand things better.
sincerely,
jlaporte
Look on the British Air Cadets website - http://www.aircadets.org/acps.html. That section has alot on basic airmanship, aswell as MCQs at the end of
each manual. (ACP stands for Air Cadet Proficiancy; start at level 1 and work up to level 3/4 on the manuals; it's not much, but it's a start). Point you towards ACP32. Vol3 out of all those inparticular. Plus, all Air Cadets are expected to have passed the relevant theory exams on these topics, up to level 2 (leading cadet) before they're allowed to fly - that no doubt has changed as I've not been in the Air Cadets for many, many years!
Post Edited ( 06-25-09 02:00 )