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Share your failures! - michael - 13-07-2007
Just thought id make a thread about FSP failures...
When you are in flight and you encounter a problem, post it in this thread and well see how many failures people encounter of their flights!
I just finished a flight that was very scary indeed!
It was in a American Airlines 767 and it was rainy, windy and dull weather and im used to flying in clear weather so...
Anyway, the plane wouldnt take to the air and I had to scrape the tail to avoid an overrun, then the gear didnt retract so I had:
Bad weather
No gear going up
Tail strike
I managed to turn around back to KLAX and land though, phew!
It was meant to be a flight from LAX to Seattle but I couldnt go on!
Flight Report: http://www.fspassengers.com/?action=va&listflight=132721
Re: Share your failures! - Launchbury - 13-07-2007
I was flying a Baron 58 in the Caribbean and on takeoff I heard a "thunk" and thought 'what the hell was that?' Turns out it was a bird
strike. I found out a few hundred miles from land when the engine died.
Another flight when I was going from Princess Juliana to South America in a Mooney, cruising at 9,800 feet, cruise stretched to the
absolute maximum, 300 miles from any land, the engine starts to lose power. [oldmanvoice]And we was goin' down![/oldmanvoice]
Cruised down to about 1000 feet above the waves and the engine picks up. However, when I try and climb above 1000 feet the engine
loses power again. Only choice is to stick it out at 900 feet and hope the fuel holds out until landfall. Finally put it down on a small island
with nothing but a drop in the tanks. Flight report said unused fuel in the tanks was 0 gallons. WHEW!
Re: Share your failures! - michael - 13-07-2007
Quote:Launchbury wrote:Interesting
I was flying a Baron 58 in the Caribbean and on takeoff I heard a "thunk" and thought 'what the hell was that?' Turns out it was
a bird
strike. I found out a few hundred miles from land when the engine died.
Another flight when I was going from Princess Juliana to South America in a Mooney, cruising at 9,800 feet, cruise stretched to the
absolute maximum, 300 miles from any land, the engine starts to lose power. [oldmanvoice]And we was goin' down![/oldmanvoice]
Cruised down to about 1000 feet above the waves and the engine picks up. However, when I try and climb above 1000 feet the engine
loses power again. Only choice is to stick it out at 900 feet and hope the fuel holds out until landfall. Finally put it down on a small island
with nothing but a drop in the tanks. Flight report said unused fuel in the tanks was 0 gallons. WHEW!
Re: Share your failures! - Launchbury - 13-07-2007
Yeah I don't know why it worked out like that, but I'm not being picky!
Re: Share your failures! - emkay - 13-07-2007
1. Flew over a war zone, I practically lost everything but was able to nicely land at KSFO
2. None of my flaps worked, so I had to make an unsually fast approach in an a330 to bristol, landed safely
3. The gear didn't go down in my B747, had to make a belly landing at TNCM, and did it beautifully! saving all the passengers
Re: Share your failures! - michael - 13-07-2007
Quote:emkay wrote:At TNCM!
1. Flew over a war zone, I practically lost everything but was able to nicely land at KSFO
2. None of my flaps worked, so I had to make an unsually fast approach in an a330 to bristol, landed safely
3. The gear didn't go down in my B747, had to make a belly landing at TNCM, and did it beautifully! saving all the passengers
You MUT+ST be a good pilot to belly land there and survive!
Re: Share your failures! - deanos63 - 14-07-2007
has anyone had an air rage inccident yet? i think it may happen if you serve to many drinks to your passengers
I currently have my failure settings at 45%, now i know this is unrealistic but it gives you something to watch for when flying knowing that
you have a 55% chance of it going without any inccident but you have a high chce of something going wrong, make flying more exciting!!!
especially with radar contact. declaring you intentions and so on!
Re: Share your failures! - Swift - 14-07-2007
http://www.mnprojects.net/va_fsp/?action=va&listflight=5
http://www.mnprojects.net/va_fsp/?action=va&listflight=13
http://www.mnprojects.net/va_fsp/?action=va&listflight=14
20% failures and i'm regretful...
Re: Share your failures! - deanos63 - 14-07-2007
wasn't the first one your fault? you exceed max flap air speed?
if there was a problem on the second why didn't you get deducted points for not calling a mayday?
you didn't call the mayday on you 3rd one, tut-tut
Re: Share your failures! - Swift - 15-07-2007
Quote:deanos63 wrote:
wasn't the first one your fault? you exceed max flap air speed?
if there was a problem on the second why didn't you get deducted points for not calling a mayday?
you didn't call the mayday on you 3rd one, tut-tut
There is noo need to call for a mayday for landing with no flaps lol, you'll just land a little faster than the usual.
For the last one, I didn't knew I would be penalized. :p
Re: Share your failures! - Leftcoaster - 15-07-2007
Not really an in-flight failure but a costly pilot error resulting in damage and a bunch of penalty points:
Flight ID: AA83
Pilot: Leftcoaster
Company: American Classic
Aircraft: Boeing 707-123 American Airlines 1959
Flight Date: July 15 1959
Departure: 07h48 (13h48 GMT)
Arrival: 08h36 (15h36 GMT)
From: XDEN - Denver Stapleton - USA
To: KPHX - Phoenix Sky Harbor Intl - Usa
Nbr of Passengers: 83
Report:
Flight Distance: 511 Nm Landing Speed: 122.92 kt
Time Airborne: 01h41:22 Landing Touchdown: -353.08 ft/m
Flight Time (block): 01h48:35 Landing Pitch: 5.90°
Time On Ground: 00h13:33 Landing Weight: 174134 lbs
Average Speed: 302.65 kt Total Fuel Used: 23165 lbs
Max. Altitude: FL 330 Fuel Not Used: 22072 lbs
Climb Time: 00h18:46 Climb Fuel Used: 7321 lbs
Cruise Time: 00h38:00 Cruise Fuel Used: 5388 lbs
Average Cruise Speed: 488.59 kt M0.78 Cruise fuel/hour: 8508 lbs (calc)
Descent Time: 00h44:36 Descent Fuel Used: 10455 lbs
Passenger Opinion: Very shaky flight (68%)
-Were in a better mood because they had food.
-Were pleased by the music on ground. A very nice addition to their flying experience.
-Were angry because you made what seemed to be a dangerous take-off.
Company Reputation:
Considering that the flight was not good the ticket price normal, the service price normal and the service quality perfect, passengers on
this flight think that your company's reputation should be 68%
Your company reputation is now: 92% (-2.50 decrease)
Overall Flight Result: Horrible
Pilot Bonus points: 30 points
· You landed at the scheduled airport. (+30)
Pilot's Penalty points: -740 points ($201 bill)
· At departure airport you rolled at 137 kt beyond the edge of the runway.The landing gear sustained some damage and our
company has received a fine of $201. (-740)
I know -740 points isn't impressive for some but I'm used to flying big propliners (DC-6B, Constellations etc) and near perfect flights
most of the time. This was my first civilian jet flight in some time. Lesson learned, check runway length after getting taxi clearance.
Denver's runway 13 is only 7000' and that's too short for a first generation 707 even with full throttle, water injection and flaps 30 on a hot
summer morning.
Just after V1 was called, the end of the runway appeared. D'oh.
Vr was 138 kts and as you can see I ALMOST made it but ended up doing $117,000 damage to the mains because the nosewheel was
already off the ground. Rest of the trip was fine (except for the little matter of the go-around at Phoenix)...
Well Mrs Lincoln, other than that how did you like the play?
Cheers
Re: Share your failures! - partyboy911 - 15-07-2007
Well, I was getting used to my new aircraft.
Unfortunately, I wasent used to the speeds so I stalled. But, I quickly recovered.
I was climbing to my cruising altitude which was between FL230 - FL270 (Cant remember) when all of a sudden I heard a bang and then whooshing air.
I was like "DID I OPEN A DOOR"
No. Window cracked.
http://clanpwh.po.gs/FSP/FsPlistflight.php?listflight=165
Now, the passengers claimed I did a "dive of death". I say, it was a dive of life. I wasent going to slowly descend 1,800 feet per minute, during a
massive decompression ^_^
Re: Share your failures! - Sakakawea - 16-07-2007
Quote:There is noo need to call for a mayday for landing with no flaps lol, you'll just land a little faster than the usual.
In reality not... no... You should tell it to ATC but no mayday... In FSP you call a mayday to show that you noticed the failure... no penalty but
extra points :P
Re: Share your failures! - Anastasios - 16-07-2007
A little bit faster than usual?
A whole lot faster and it will definitely be an emergency landing. Thought about the force on the landing gear? The gear might collapse, it might even burn because of hard braking. What if weather conditions aren't that good?
You should definitely declare an emergency, it might be 'pan, pan, pan' or 'mayday, mayday', but it is an emergency and you need your cabin crew to prepare for an emergency landing.
This must be a fault in FsP. Well... I will declare an emergency if this happens. At least a 'pan, pan, pan'.
Anastasios.
Post Edited ( 07-16-07 14:05 )
Re: Share your failures! - hihibbb2468 - 16-07-2007
The 50ft AGL of PSS 777 is missing.
I land hardly on the ground with -312fpm.
No, that's not landing, this is CRASHING to the ground
